" Gee, lexirie, I heard it from Orion that it was true. After all he posted it word-for-word from someone else & called it a fact. Anti-Christ, indeed, he posted it in its entirety because someone told him to. Just like a good bushbot. maybe Burton can come to his rescue again. I guess it's safe to say he's never ACTUALLY read the Book of Revelation, or Gospel of Matthew, yet he'd have us believe he knows what he's talking about. "

" All that is left for Hillary and the
Republicans is fear.
Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering."
Yoda "

" From snopes.com looks like it is their job to do research.

"Nothing in the Bible in Revelation or elsewhere describes the anti-Christ as being "a man, in his 40s, of Muslim descent." In fact, since the book of Revelation was complete by the end of the second century, but the religion of Islam wasn't founded until about four hundred years later, the notion that Revelation would have mentioned a "Muslim" at all is rather far-fetched. (And even if it did, it couldn't be construed as a reference to Barack Obama, since Senator Obama isn't a Muslim.)

The Biblical citation most relevant to this issue might not be one from Revelation, but rather this passage from the Gospel of Matthew:
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
Last updated: 24 April 2008


The URL for this page is http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/antichrist.asp" "

" Thank you Catherine for writing a well-reasoned and accurate letter. Ignore those racist bigots who have posted below.

I am a 68-year old woman who originally was for Senator Clinton. I would truly be thrilled to see a qualified woman elected to the Presidency in my lifetime. However, as this campaign has gone on and on and on, I now believe that Hillary is not the best person to be nominated, and I have switched my support to Senator Obama.

Sen. Clinton appears to say and do absolutely anything to further her ambitions: she lies, she manipulates, and promises everything under the sun to everybody. She insinuates that race IS an issue ("more whites have voted for her"), and that we need to wait through June lest "somebody" get assassinated, or other disaster befalls Sen. Obama.

I think Sen. Obama offers a new day. He is much more able to work in a non-partisan fashion and thus be able to get things accomplished, rather than get involved in never-ending stalemates. I think he is better able to bring fresh ideas to the table regarding economic recovery, stabilizing America's relationships with foreign countries, and working toward peace in the mid-east.

He understands the plight of low income and middle income Americans, and can make the changes necessary to bring economic parity commensurate with all levels of income.

Personally, I want a President who is better educated than me, more intelligent than me, and able to accomplish a great deal more than I ever could--and more than Sen Clinton ever could. Therefore, I support Sen. Barack Obama for President of the United States. "

" Brava! Here's something from the Houston Chronicle that was sent on to me. Enjoy.

http://blogs.chron.com/nickanderson/archives/2006/10/hillarys_baggag_1.html "

" Brava! "

" Yay! Some more prejudice from good ol' butte. Presumably "Tard" is slang for (a word the filter wouldn't let me use), which was used for many developmental conditions. Oh the hatred reflected from butte in the last decades. Kudos to John Burton for being politically incorrect. "

" Well said John Burton, I dont need to say anymore. "

" The Tard deriding another poster for cutting & pasting is like the liberal kettle calling the socialial pot black.

Try to at least get your idiocies straight, Tard. Orion appears to have been excerpting (maybe from whole cloth) a piece written by Ken Blackwell of the New York Sun. If would appear, Tard, that you are questioning Mr. Blackwell's "accuracy."

As is your usual, Tard, you say another poster is inaccurate, yet you fail to point out why other than to type "your" opinions as to what "you" believe the facts to be. You're a fraud, Tard. I think it would be best for you to remain in your 10'x 10' government office and decide how many post it notes you need to order for the department. Try to leave the thinking and decision making to people who actually are paid to do so. "

" Great post Ms. Chapman, well written, lucid, logical, coherent. Then there's Orion, who can't even write his/her own post, who regurgitates - "I have reposted some facts stated by another Standard readed: MTWyld. So how do you know these are true facts Orion? Obviously, you can't think for yourself. All one has to do is say that it's a fact & that's good enough for you? Let me dissect a couple of points he has copied from the expert MTWyld (actually the whole screed is a mishmash of crud) -- "Start with national security, since the president's most important duties are as commander-in-chief. Over the summer, Mr. Obama talked about invading Pakistan, a nation armed with nuclear weapons; meeting without preconditions with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who vows to destroy Israel and create another Holocaust; and Kim Jong II, who is murdering and starving his people, but emphasized that the nuclear option was off the table against terrorists - something no president has ever taken off the table since we created nuclear weapons in the 1940s. Even Democrats who have worked in national security condemned all of those remarks. Mr. Obama is a foreign-policy novice who would put our national security at risk. -- Obama never once said he'd invade Pakistan, so that's a lie. What he DID say was that he's strike Al Qaeda terror camps if he had evidence & proof if bin Laden was there. I say good? George bush invaded Iraq when there was NO proof that they were a threat to us, or had WMDs. Scott Mcclellan has something to say about this as well. Obama said he would meet with our enemies (he didn't say unconditionally). President Kennedy said never negotiate out of fear, but never fear to negotiate. Nixon (China), Reagan (Gorbachev)also followed this advise. Only the Chimp refuses, probably because he's a uncouth lout who's so weak he wouldn't be successful & make the Country look foolish. -- I can't accuse Orion of being ignorant on his own merits, I can only reference another's ignorance he has chosen to parrot. Orion you should actuall do your own thinking & research. "

" Dont think your choice Obama is so squeeky clean just yet. He is not the best choice. I have reposted some facts stated by another Standard readed: MTWyld2006 wrote on May 29, 2008 6:01 AM:

" Interesting little article about Obama....and some real truths.



Ken Blackwell - Columnist for the New York Sun



It's an amazing time to be alive in America. We're in a year of firsts in this presidential election: the first viable woman candidate; the first viable African-American candidate; and, a candidate who is the first front-running freedom fighter over 70. The next president of America will be a first.



We won't truly be in an election of firsts, however, until we judge every candidate by where they stand. We won't arrive where we should be until we no longer talk about skin color or gender. Now that Barack Obama steps to the front of the Democratic field, we need to stop talking about his race, and start talking about his policies and his politics.



The reality is this: Though the Democrats will not have a nominee until August, unless Hillary Clinton drops out, Mr. Obama is now the frontrunner, and its time America takes a closer and deeper look at him. Some pundits are calling him the next John F. Kennedy. He's not. He's the next George McGovern. And it's time people learned the facts.



Because the truth is that Mr. Obama is the single most liberal senator in the entire U.S. Senate. He is more liberal than Ted Kennedy, Bernie Sanders, or Mrs Clinton. Never in my life have I seen a presidential frontrunner whose rhetoric is so far removed from his record. Walter Mondale promised to raise our taxes, and he lost. George McGovern promised military weakness, and he lost. Michael Dukakis promised a liberal domestic agenda, and he lost.

Yet Mr. Obama is promising all those things, and he's not behind in the polls. Why? Because the press has dealt with him as if he were in a beauty pageant.. Mr. Obama talks about getting past party, getting past red and blue, to lead the United States of America. But let's look at the more defined strokes of who he is underneath this superficial 'beauty.'



Start with national security, since the president's most important duties are as commander-in-chief. Over the summer, Mr. Obama talked about invading Pakistan, a nation armed with nuclear weapons; meeting without preconditions with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who vows to destroy Israel and create another Holocaust; and Kim Jong II, who is murdering and starving his people, but emphasized that the nuclear option was off the table against terrorists - something no president has ever taken off the table since we created nuclear weapons in the 1940s. Even Democrats who have worked in national security condemned all of those remarks. Mr. Obama is a foreign-policy novice who would put our national security at risk.



Next, consider economic policy. For all its faults, our health care system is the strongest in the world. And free trade agreements, created by Bill Clinton as well as President Bush, have made more goods more affordable so that even people of modest means can live a life that no one imagined a generation ago. Yet Mr. Obama promises to raise taxes on 'the rich.' How to fix Social Security? Raise taxes. How to fix Medicare? Raise taxes. Prescription drugs? Raise taxes. Free college? Raise taxes. Socialize medicine? Raise taxes. His solution to everything is to have government take it over. Big Brother on steroids, funded by your paycheck.



Finally, look at the social issues. Mr. Obama had the audacity to open a stadium rally by saying, 'All praise and glory to God!' but says that Christian leaders speaking for life and marriage have 'hijacked' - hijacked - Christianity He is pro-partial birth abortion, and promises to appoint Supreme Court justices who will rule any restriction on it unconstitutional. He espouses the abortion views of Margaret Sanger, one of the early advocates of racial cleansing. His spiritual leaders endorse homosexual marriage, and he is moving in that direction. In Illinois, he refused to vote against a statewide ban - ban - on all handguns in the state. These are radical left, Hollywood, and San Francis co values, not Middle America values.



The real Mr. Obama is an easy target for the general election. Mrs. Clinton is a far tougher opponent. But Mr. Obama could win if people don't start looking behind his veneer and flowery speeches. His vision of 'bringing America together' means saying that those who disagree with his agenda for America are hijackers or warmongers. Uniting the country means adopting his liberal agenda and abandoning any conflicting beliefs.



But right now everyone is talking about how eloquent of a speaker he is and - yes - they're talking about his race. Those should never be the factors on which we base our choice for president. Mr. Obama's radical agenda sets him far outside the American mainstream, to the left of Mrs. Clinton.



It's time to talk about the real Barack Obama. In an election of firsts, let's first make sure we elect the person who is qualified to be our president in a nuclear age during a global civilizational war.

Subject: Kind of scary, wouldn't you think Remember--God is good, and is in time, on time — every time



According to The Book of Revelations the anti-christ is:



The anti-christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, will destroy everything. Is it OBAMA??



I STRONGLY URGE each one of you to repost this as many times as you can! Each opportunity that you have to send it to a friend or media outlet...do it! If you think I am crazy,. I'm sorry but I refuse to take a chance on the 'unknown' candidate. " "